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Posted: Saturday, October 14, 2017 10:32:16 PM
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House Rules 2nd Edition:

Rules in Red can probably be erased.
Rules in green need to have a discussion.

Game speed is 4 or 3 in peace time.
Game speed when at war is 2 or 1.
You are allowed to load into the saved game between sessions to look at things on your country and your Allies if you ask them before.

Any mods that do not change checksum are allowed (graphics/sound/Interface mods).

We always play with historical AI focuses on.

Historical major events and focuses until the focus Danzig or War is finished.
You should also play with a historical common sense in mind.

Declaration of Wars:

Barbarossa can also be that Soviet attacks first and it will have the same effect if someone wants to join them.

Justifying a war goal is allowed before the actual DOW.

No DOW´s that are not historical for Non Axis countries is allowed until after Paris has fallen.

No DOW´s that are not historical for Axis countries is allowed before Danzig or War, minors have to join the Axis faction first.

Axis or Comintern should not be allowed to take over countries via focuses before operation Danzig or War, unless they are historical takeovers.

The Allies can attack Iraq or use a focus before Barbarossa and after it´s free for all.
After Barbarossa everyone can DOW or use a focus on the following countries:
Turkey, Iran and Afghanistan.


You may join the faction of yours before you can enter the war, but some countries have special rules on this.

War entries and other specific country Rules:

Germany:

They have to start WW2 with the NF Danzig or War, but they need to have the NF Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact before.
They have to do the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.
They must give Eastern Poland to the USSR.
To allow Italy to join them before the Fall of Paris they need to have the German NF "Alliance with Italy"
They can start to send Lend Lease to China as soon as they are at war with Japan, but no volunteers is allowed to be sent.
They can start to send Lend Lease and volunteers to National Spain as soon as SCW starts.
They can DOW Soviet after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact has been cancelled

Japan:

They can DOW China when they feel that they are ready for it.
After Danzig or War they may DOW USA, UK and the rest of the Commonwealth and this can be before China has fallen.
They may also start to DOW the following Asian countries: Tibet, Bhutan and Nepal, but not before Danzig or War.
If the Netherlands has fallen in Europe, then they can DOW the Dutch East Indies as well.
They may not DOW Soviet or it´s Allies) until operation Barbarossa has started.
When Italy is at war with the Allies, then they can join the Axis faction.

Italy:

To be able to join the Axis faction and war, Paris has to fall first or if they have the Italian NF "Pact of Steel", then they can join earlier and start to make DOW´s on the Balkan countries and others.
They can start to send Lend Lease and volunteers to National Spain as soon as SCW starts.

Soviet:

Germany can DOW you after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact has been cancelled
You may DOW Finland and the Baltic states after Danzig or War, you may also make claims on Romania then.
They are allowed to DOW the Axis if one of these two conditions are meet:
If the Axis captures or builds a naval port in mainland Ireland/UK(including Shetland Islands) or if Suez and the Levant is taken(by Axis) and the Bosphorus Strait is threatened by the Axis countries(Bulgaria is Axis or Germany(Axis) stands on the border with Turkey).

When the war between Japan and China starts, they are allowed to send Lend Lease to China, but no volunteers is allowed.(If they get a Non-Aggression Pact with Japan ,then they have to stop the Lend Lease)
They can start to send Lend Lease and Volunteers to Republican Spain as soon as SCW starts.
No Soviet Volunteers or Lend-Lease to the Allies is allowed, since they didn't do it in WW2.
You must accept the Tank Treaty.

USA:

They can only join the Allies, if one of these three conditions below are meet:
They are attacked or Japan DOW´s SOV, DEI, UK(Commonwealth) or if the Axis captures or builds a naval port in mainland Ireland/UK.(including Shetland Islands)
They may not DOW any country until they are at war with Germany or Japan, not even from focuses.
They are not allowed to do coups or support parties until they are at war.
They may not use the following focuses until they are at War(Black Chamber Operation and Preemptive Intervention) since they are not historical.
If they have the NF Arsenal of Democracy then they are allowed to send Lend Lease to the Allies and Comintern, but for Comintern they can only do it after operation Barbarossa has started.
They are also not allowed to send any Volunteers at all.
When World Tension(WT) is high enough then they can join the Allies faction.

United Kingdom and the Commonwealth:

The Low Countries(Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg) may not be invited to the Allied faction before Danzig or War.
When Germany´s war with Poland has started you can start to send land and air units to France.
No Lend-Lease is allowed to be sent to Soviet until after operation Barbarossa has started.
The Allies(Includes all countries in the Allied faction) can send Lend Lease to China when UK have finished the Focus The Burma Road.

France:

You can get Level 2 forts via focuses and then you can build them manually up to level 5 ,but not higher.

Neutral and Minor countries:

If you play a neutral/minor country that is not Communist or Fascist then you can join the Allies faction and war after USA has entered the war.

If you are a Communist country then you can join the Comintern after Barbarossa has started.

If you are a Fascist country then you can join the Axis faction and war after Italy is at war with the Allies.

Spain:

Nationalist Spain: They can only join the Axis faction and war if the allies has taken all of North Africa or if Barbarossa has started.
Republican Spain can only join Comintern after Barbarossa.


Diplomacy:

You are allowed to do anything concerning diplomacy with the following exceptions:

You are allowed to improve relations at any time.

No sending Volunteers or Lend Lease to other Pre-WW2 conflicts is allowed except the following ones: the Spanish Civil War, China vs Japan.

It´s allowed to support your own ideology in another country, but only against the AI and after Danzig or War.

Coups are allowed against the AI, but only after Danzig or War.

Player controlled countries have to follow their historical ideology (Democracy, Fascist, Non-Aligned or Comintern), but is allowed to change if needed in some special cases like below.
Maybe they need to change their ideology to fit in more with their faction.
If so they are allowed to get help from other countries and by them self.

You may NOT attack a nation that you have a GoI with, unless it joins a faction or alliance you're at war with.

You are allowed to send and receive EXP Forces,but the following rule has to be followed then:
You are only allowed to use them defensively and never have them in a offensive operation, unless you don´t build up a planning bonus with them.

Alliances that do not have anything to do with WW2 is not allowed, use your common sense about what feels like it could have happened in the war or ask first.

You are allowed to give military access to a country that are at war, that you share a common border with and have the same enemy.(it will be limited around the border area only)

Mixed rules:

If something is not in here it´s allowed, but ask first to be certain.

You can have one single volunteer division(Brigade size) as an observer unit, but it must not participate in combat (unless forced to through the capital in the country you are observing is encircled or similar).
You are allowed to disband this unit if needed and if possible.

This is the Rules about Tech research:
1. You are only allowed to research up to 1 year in advance with no bonus.
2. 1.5 years in advance if you have 50% bonus.
3. 2 years in advance if you have a 100% ahead bonus.

Only 5 levels on both variants of Forts is allowed to be built manually, but can be higher with a focus if they can get higher with that.(France has a special rule about this)

Axis and Japanese Fleets/Troops/Aircrafts should remain in their own theatre of war, but if Suez is in Axis control or if Soviet(not naval forces) has fallen and Germany and Japan have a common border, then they can move into other theatres.
You can then also send and get Lend Lease from the Axis faction members if you are Japan and East Africa is in Axis hands,you also have to own a harbor in the Indian Ocean to make that work.

Templates:


These template changes is allowed:

CAV>INF>MOT>MECH and vice versa.
ART>SPA and vice versa.
AA>SPAAG and vice versa.
AT>TD and vice versa.
LARM>MARM>HARM>SHARM and vice versa.
ELITE INF>ELITE INF.

These Template changes is not allowed:
CAV/INF(Elite)/MOT/MECH>Armor and vice versa.
INF>Elite INF(Marines/Para/Mountaineers.)

You should also not be allowed to combine more than 2 ARM/SPG/TD/SPAAG with Elite INF.

Exploits:

No exploits of any kind is allowed, so if in doubt ask the the other players first.

Droping paratroopers on enemy retreat destinations or forcing evacuating amphibious assaults to retreat inland should not be allowed.

You are allowed to delete units that are surrounded and can´t get away, but deleting almost encircled divisions is not allowed.(You can get them out maybe, via a Harbor)

Changing templates of volunteer or encircled forces is not allowed.
No template switching should be allowed at the front with newly arrived units.
When you change a template then just use a common sense on this matter on where it is appropriate to do it

Giving away states to other Countries(Players) just for building purposes(Factories/Yards) is not allowed, but for resources and strategic reasons is OK.
You should also only be allowed to do this with countries in the same theatre of war.

There can be exceptions from these rules, so ask before you do something wrong.



Marine
Posted: Thursday, October 19, 2017 9:09:26 PM
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Hi ,

I changed some of the rules on the fly here.

Org:
Help for China as in the Burma Road with start from January 1938:
The Allies can send Lend Lease to China from the start of the war between Japan and China as long as Rangoon or Haiphong is in Allied hands or if India has a open path(Impassible terrain stops this) to China.

New:
Help for China as in the Burma Road with start from January 1938
The Allies can send Lend Lease to China from the start of the war between Japan and China as long as Rangoon or Haiphong is in Allied hands, a open path to China is also required.(Impassible terrain stops this)

Org 1:
You are not allowed to have more ART (Variants included) Battalions than INF in a Division.
Think with the 7-2(30% ART) model in mind(like 7 INF and 2 ART)

Org 2:
You are not allowed to have more ART (Variants included) Battalions than INF in a Division.
Think like this 60%(INF)-40%(ART).

To not confuse people with new stuff.
We in the old group have never really had any problems with this at all, so I just write the rules in the easiest way.

New:
You are not allowed to have more ART (Variants included) Battalions than INF in a Division, use your common sense here on what you feel is OK.
Praetori
Posted: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:20:38 PM
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I motion to add the suggestion about single division observer volunteers.

1 single division that must not participate in combat (unless of course forced to through encircling the capital or similar).
Allowed to disband if possible or needed.
Marine
Posted: Friday, October 27, 2017 5:55:52 PM
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Praetori wrote:
I motion to add the suggestion about single division observer volunteers.

1 single division that must not participate in combat (unless of course forced to through encircling the capital or similar).
Allowed to disband if possible or needed.


Great suggestion ,

I have put it under Misc rules.
Marine
Posted: Thursday, December 07, 2017 9:24:09 PM
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Old Rules that has changed some:

You are not allowed to have more ART (Variants included) Battalions than INF in a Division, use your common sense here on what you feel is OK.
Think like 60-70% INF and the rest can be ART or think 7/2 model.

Deleting almost encircled divisions is not allowed.
Marine
Posted: Saturday, December 09, 2017 10:33:46 PM
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If we should use House Rules on Okhas and Kamikaze missions, then I have some suggestions:

Okhas can be build after you have the tech Rocket Engine 44.

You can use the Kamikaze in the following Naval Zones if enemy Ships are in those:

East China Sea.
Coast of Japan.
Sea of Japan.
Sea of Okhotsk.
Marine
Posted: Monday, February 05, 2018 6:32:29 PM
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When Waking the Tiger and 1.5 Cornflakes is out I guess that some of the Rules will be obsolete.

So we have to take a look at them to see what is still needed ,now that the group is so good and that we have the Mod from Alex.
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