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Ederon
Posted: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:23:54 AM
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I think it's plain naive to consider assasination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand as real cause of war. It was not cause, but excuse for war.
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Posted: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:26:22 AM
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Again I believe there were other causes not directly attributable. Though I can say with confidence that the treaty of versailles caused ww2.

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Posted: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:53:33 AM
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Austria, being one of the most backwards countries in western and central Europe at the time, wanted to block Serbia from influencing Bosnia. The assassination of the Archduke merely gave them the excuse they needed to try to beat Serbia into submission. But since almost all of Europe was tied up in alliances, this led to the Great War. And since Germany and Austria weren't able to knock Russia out of the war quickly (due to Russia mobilizing much faster than expected), this led to a war of attrition which Germany lost.


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Anders is correct.

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Yeah, Anders is right.

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Posted: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:57:03 AM
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Anders wrote:
Austria, being one of the most backwards countries in western and central Europe at the time, wanted to block Serbia from influencing Bosnia. The assassination of the Archduke merely gave them the excuse they needed to try to beat Serbia into submission. But since almost all of Europe was tied up in alliances, this led to the Great War. And since Germany and Austria weren't able to knock Russia out of the war quickly (due to Russia mobilizing much faster than expected), this led to a war of attrition which Germany lost.
I have other theories.

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Ederon
Posted: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:04:30 AM
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sonofliberty wrote:
I have other theories.

I suggest we discuss this topic in off-topic secion. Let this be tied to game, not history debates. (just trying some mederation Tongue)
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Posted: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:16:06 AM
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I posted before I saw Ed's post.

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Anders is correct.

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Yeah, Anders is right.

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I would tend to agree with Anders.

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Ederon
Posted: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:18:50 AM
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Anders wrote:
I posted before I saw Ed's post.

So here we can continue history debate on topic of WWI cause/backgrounds.
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Posted: Thursday, August 23, 2007 2:19:50 AM
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Lord Ederon wrote:
So here we can continue history debate on topic of WWI cause/backgrounds.
So noted, I didn't start one because I wasn't sure of the level of interest.

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