Here is a new thread on the next Campaign

We will start again in week 4(22th Jan)

We now have a new MP Mod version(0.05).


The available countries:

Axis:

Germany: Juv95hrn (Confirmed)
Italy: Praetori (Confirmed) /JASGripen as coop (Pending)
Japan: Marine (Confirmed)

Reserve/Minor/Coop1: Redcoat as Romania (Confirmed)
Reserve/Minor/Coop2: ?

Allies:

USA: Bpoitier (Confirmed)
UK: Lollo (Confirmed)
Soviet: Alex (Confirmed)
France(when it falls you will become USA): ?
China(when it falls you will become USA): ?


Reserve/Minor/Coop1: Chimaera72 as Australia (Confirmed)
Reserve/Minor/Coop2: ?

Communications:
We use TS3 Server and this is mandatory for organization of the game. Address: eve.dontexist.com, if you don't know about password ask Alex or Praetori for it in a PM.

Server Host:
Praetori or Juv95hrn

Checksum and version:
MP Mod version 0.05(Checksum TCPI)
Link to thread where you can download it and also read the changelog: http://forums.ederon.net/default.aspx?g=posts&t=2835


Houserules suggestion:


Intelligence:

This is allowed with spies(intelligence actions ) before war starts in Europe: Military espionage, Counter espionage, Tech espionage. Covert operations(Only collecting points), Support own party allowed versus AI (for example Germany supporting own party in Austria).
After war starts with that country that you want to spy on, all the rest is allowed.
Coups are not allowed on human players. at any time


Diplomacy:

- Guarantee of Independence (GoI) only allowed in special cases.
- Soviet may put GoI on Finland, Romania, Persia and Turkey and the Baltic states.
- Germany may put GoI on Sweden, Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria and Turkey.
- UK and France may put GoI on Spain, Portugal, Greece and Turkey.
- You may NOT attack a nation which Independence you Guarantee unless it joins a faction or alliance your at war with.

Trade and embargo:

- Allies, Soviet and USA must trade away surplus resources to Axis requesting it, as long as they have more then +20 energy/ +10 metal / +5 rares. (They can cancel trades if they go negative).
- Allies and USA can embargo Japan after Japan sieze Indochina, but this may force Japan to attack sooner and secure it's resources and oil! (Soviet may not embargo Japan).

US war entry:

- If the year is 1942.
- If Japan is at war with a SOV, UK or a European nation.
- If Germany captures a mainland UK port.

Soviet war entry:

- If the year is 1942.

Italian war entry:

- If Paris has fallen.
- If it's 1940 or later.

Other Declaration of Wars:

- No ahistorical Axis DoWs before Danzig.
- No ahistorical Non Axis DoWs before 1940.
- Danzig may be selected earliest in January 1939.

Exploits:

- No exploits for example dropping paratroopers on enemy retreat destinations, or forcing evacuating amphibious assaults to retreat inland.
- No rushing with ACs and HQs to take enemy territories on purpose

Other Houserules:

- Submarine flotillas limited to 3 units per fleet/sea-zone.
- No positioning penalty(Red number) over 50 on ships.
- Having the wars in China and Ethiopia is okay since they where on almost the entire war. This can also be okay with some other countries to i think. Just ask about it first.
- Suggestion of a new Houserule from Alex: Since Alex changed Strategic redeployment speed to 30km/h, we should limit it somewhat so it's clear your not allowed to exploit it in offensives. The suggestion is then to limit it to only be allowed to end in a Port,Urban or in a VP Province( they should assemble logical railroad hubs).
This is more realistic I think, because there where not railroads everywhere in WWII.
Strategic Railroad Redeployment is not intended to rush infantry reinforcements back and forth a few provinces along the front or through a hole in the enemy lines!


Rules applied by our Mod:

- Reserves allowed for everything (changed conscription laws to give a maximum of 25% IC discount).
- Lowered fort penalty from 9% to 7% per level.
- Lowered radar effect to half (225km max range instead of 450km).
- Limited paratrooper to a maximum of 20 brigades.
- Balance changes to submarines and carriers.
- For more on the Mod read the changelog.

Editeddelay in start date and some adjustments. I have also now put some ideas on who will play what so far. I have now also included the changelog for all versions so far. so that new players and old can catch up on what is changed. New MP Mod version and checksum is up now.)
/Marine

File Attachment(s):
MRP Changelog.txt (13kb) downloaded 30 time(s).

I agree on this ,so that all know whats happening.



I fully agree on this as well ,because we need that Axis surprise ,when will they attack



Yes this fells much more historical.

As we talked about earlier we should also limit the size of subs to 2-3 per province, but it depends on how the next mod version is .

@Anders, be aware that many of us do prefer to talk in Swedish/Scandinavian in TS. If you can convince everyone in the Axis team to make an exception or if your not bothered with not understand most, it's probably fine though (Assuming you don't understand Swedish).
This might be confusing since we do write in English here but we can just say we had some bad previous experience with players who spoke "english" that we hardly could understand and no less reason with in such complex situations that HoI3 requires!

@All, Id like to play something not Axis for a change after two games of Axis, here is my list of Preferences:
1.) Soviet
2.) UK
3.) France -> USA

I'm sorry about the mod, but a lot of other things have come up so I haven't really gotten to work any more on the mod
We can use it as is, but I recommend balance testing it more since we made many many more changes this time. Id like at least one more week for testing, and hope you can help me with that.
I also recommend everyone read through the v0.03 change-log under that thread.

Other houserules we talked about (recalling from memory):

* Submarines limited to 3 units per fleet/sea-zone.
* Not allowed to use AC or other fast single brigades to rush ahead and capture land.
* Should we limit fleets / Airstacks to certain sizes?

No.

But the full changelog for all versions previous should be included with the download of the latest one. I'll try to finish v0.04 and upload it ASAP, so we can start testing it.

@Alex

The mod will be finished when you want it to be

"- No ahistorical Non Axis DoWs before 1940"

I think USSR can get USA very quickly to war laws or into the war by many DOWs in january 1940 with this rule. I think the MP consensus these days are no non-historical DOWs before major war.


I can play about any major but I'd prefer to not play UK again. USA is also a bummer since they enter so late.

Regarding licenses 1 plane, 1 ship and 2 brigades at the same time was one rule used in some campaign. I can't remember which one but I think it is good to limit it or ban it.

You are welcome Chimaera72

You have joined a nice pack of players

Stay tuned on any news on the mod and other things .

/Marine

Maybe we should have a chat on TS tomorrow at around 20.00 and talk about the mod and house rules?

Welcome Chimera! Glad to see you here!

I Will be busy at work tomorrow night. Dinner with colleauges. i Will adept to any rules. I like the limitations on naval forces. But does this mean you Can only have One naval taskforce in combat? It should only apply to warships and not transports.

My country preferences are as follow:
Not a major since I might be away sometimes. coop is alright. if independent i would gladley play, Italy, Japan, Australia or even Canada. I Will adept to the needs of the group.

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Marche pour les Suédois (Narvamarschen)

I will also be there

I have now edited the the info in the beginning of this thread with some new rules and who plays what so far.

Edited:
I will update the first side with some more info.

/Marine

I don't understand at all what you mean I'm afraid but I don't like that you can't change stuff.

We could play a single week "without limits" in custom game mode just to get a feel for the mod and all the changes for example a 1941 start.

But I don't think it's a good idea for the main game for a number of reasons we don't have to go deeper into.

The first years taking time isn't a problem anyways, in the last game I'm sure we advanced several years per week we played during peacetime and on average more like 2-3 months per week at war.