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King of Men
Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 7:36:58 AM
 Legatus legionis

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I'm going to normalise the score so that the highest scorer has ten thousand points, and set the prices to work with that. Unlike EU4 this won't be an auction, you just buy the stuff you want. If you don't like to make your purchases public, send me a PM here or on Discord instead. Unused score will be converted to literacy (so if you don't post, you get literacy), in such a way that if the top scorer buys nothing except literacy, he will get 5% extra, 4% will cost half that, 3% half of that again, and so on down with a smooth generating function. With ten thousand points, the literacy prices are:

5%: 10000
4%: 5000
3%: 2500
1%: 625
0.5%: 441
0%: 313
-1%: 156
-2%: 78
-9%: 1

That's what happens when you start with an "X should cost double" and just pursue the idea. So, it is somewhat suggested that you save a couple of hundred points to avoid a literacy penalty.

Other things available for purchase:

  • Factories: You can buy any factory that's available at game start. First factory (for each player) costs 1000, each subsequent one doubles in price. It follows that nobody can buy more than three factories. Note that these are in addition to what the converter gives you.
  • Fringe parties: You may pay 1000 points to make your Fascist, Socialist, Communist, or Anarcho-Liberal party (not Liberal, Conservative,or Reactionary, you take your chances with those) into a copy of a vanilla nation's party. Copying a second party costs 1500, then 2000, then 2500; and you must copy from the same vanilla nation in each case - no taking Germany's fascists and France's anarcho-liberals. For example, if you buy the Dutch anarcho-liberals, and you also want to change your fascists, you must buy the Dutch fascists.
  • Reforms: You may buy one level of a political or social reform for 1000 points; second costs 1500, and so on. (You may not buy two levels of the same reform. ) Be aware that social reforms cost money to maintain.
  • Techs: You may buy a tech that another nation has at game start; that is, catchup only. 2000 points for the first tech, 3000 for the second, 4000 for the third; double if the tech is level 2.
  • Tech schools: You may buy a tech school other than Krupp and Junker. 250 points for the first tech school, double for every subsequent one.
  • Starting party: You may change your starting government to conservative, liberal, or reactionary. 250 points for the first starting government, doubling for each subsequent one.
  • RGO swap: You can swap two RGOs that you own, for example to create a state that has both coal and iron, to move a coal province from a vulnerable border state to your capital, or to make a high-population province produce a scarce resource. 1500 points, you can only buy this once.

    Points after normalisation:

  • Dragoon: 10000
  • Tazzzo: 9013
  • James Craig: 7386
  • Clonefusion: 7279
  • Mark: 7176
  • Blayne: 6467
  • Ranger: 5418
  • Everyone else (median): 4731

    Again, please note: You must spend at least 313 points on literacy to avoid a penalty.

    Deliberately left out: Prestige and country-specific decisions.

    Read my blog.
    Norway Rome The Khanate Scotland Scotinavia Christendie the Serene Republic has always been at war with the Bretons False Empire Caliphate Persians Russians English Hungarians Oceanians Saracen Jackal! Death, death, death to the Frogs barbarians infidels necromancers vodka-drinking hegemonists Sassenach nomad menace Yellow Menace heathen Great Old One!
  • Ranger9000
    Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2018 11:07:24 AM
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    Joined: 4/11/2013
    Posts: 326
    Atlassia


    2000 Points for Basic Chemistry if we decide it's not essential, Mech Mining otherwise

    5418-2000 = 3418

    250 points for Starting Party = Conservative

    3418 - 250 = 3168

    1000 for Machine Parts Factory in Al Rif

    3168 - 1000 = 2168

    250 for Tech School, Sea power & The Merchant Marine

    2168 - 250 = 1918

    1000 for basic healthcare

    1918-1000 = 918 remaining for literacy
    James Craig
    Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2018 12:12:12 PM
     1st Lieutenant


    Joined: 2/1/2013
    Posts: 171
    Location: Scotland
    Elysium

    7386 points

    Trinket healthcare -1000=6386

    basic schools -1500=4886

    RGO swap Cajamarca (Sulphur) with Pernambuco (Wheat) -1500=3386

    Machine parts factory in Cundinamarca -1000=2386

    Tycoon capitalism tech school -250=2136

    The remaining points to literacy

    Vae Victis!
    Tazzzo
    Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2018 12:15:43 PM
     Captain


    Joined: 1/21/2013
    Posts: 324
    Location: Australia
    Medina (Because conversion hasn't been finished, this is not final)
    - 9013

    2000 for lvl 1 tech: Malthusian Thought
    -7013

    1500 for RGO swap (provinces subject to change if rgos are rolled again): Baghdad (#926) Timber swapping with Al Arish (#1756) Iron
    -5513

    1000 for social reform: trinket health care
    -4513

    1500 for social reform: basic school system
    -2013

    1000 for factory: Machine Parts factory in Baghdad
    -1013

    1013 remaining points equals around +1.7% literacy
    Mark0628
    Posted: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 8:03:39 PM
     Lieutenant Colonel

    One Year Membership Medal

    Joined: 3/15/2012
    Posts: 550
    Maik asked me to post for him since he cant log into ederon.

    Occitania - 4731
    Machine parts factory - 3731
    Trinket healthcare - 2731
    Military industrial complex - 2481
    basic school system - 981
    981 into literacy - 0
    Gollevainen
    Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 4:31:53 PM
     Legatus legionis

    One Year Membership MedalTwo Year Membership MedalAuthor of 50,000th Forum Post

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    Posts: 4,233
    Location: "I need zoo love!"
    When is the deadline for these?




    Irsh Faq wrote:
    I've noted with Golle a trend of stirring up as much drama publicly as he can whenever he's up to something shady in the background. Presumably its a smokescreen strategy.
    King of Men
    Posted: Thursday, June 21, 2018 5:28:48 AM
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    Friday.

    Read my blog.
    Norway Rome The Khanate Scotland Scotinavia Christendie the Serene Republic has always been at war with the Bretons False Empire Caliphate Persians Russians English Hungarians Oceanians Saracen Jackal! Death, death, death to the Frogs barbarians infidels necromancers vodka-drinking hegemonists Sassenach nomad menace Yellow Menace heathen Great Old One!
    Clonefusion
    Posted: Thursday, June 21, 2018 8:03:59 AM
     Major

    Joined: 7/14/2013
    Posts: 529
    Location: Germany
    Base - 7279
    Military-Industrial Complex - 7029 (tech school)
    Trinket Health Care - 6029
    Basic School System - 4529
    The Rights of Man - 2529 (Tech)
    Machine Parts Factory in Isfahan - 1529
    2-3% Literacy from 1529 points - 0

    Make Georgia, North Caucasia, Trabzon, Kars normal states (they were states in eu4)
    Gollevainen
    Posted: Friday, June 22, 2018 4:25:29 PM
     Legatus legionis

    One Year Membership MedalTwo Year Membership MedalAuthor of 50,000th Forum Post

    Joined: 4/5/2008
    Posts: 4,233
    Location: "I need zoo love!"
    Great britain - 4731
    Machine parts factory - 3731 (leinster-concacht)
    Trinket healthcare - 2731
    Sea power & The Merchant Marine - 2481
    basic school system - 981
    981 into literacy - 0



    Irsh Faq wrote:
    I've noted with Golle a trend of stirring up as much drama publicly as he can whenever he's up to something shady in the background. Presumably its a smokescreen strategy.
    dragoon9105
    Posted: Saturday, June 23, 2018 4:47:45 AM
     Lieutenant General


    Joined: 8/25/2014
    Posts: 2,150
    10000
    -1500 Switch Novarra 722 And Treviso 732
    -2000 Publishing industry
    -1000 trinket healthcare
    -1500 Basic school system
    -2000 state controlled unions
    -250 corporate industrialism
    -1000 machine parts in piedmont
    -1000 Russian socialists (the ones with jingoism and full citizenship)
    -750 into literacy
    laxspartan007
    Posted: Saturday, June 23, 2018 5:58:00 AM
     Corporal

    Joined: 2/10/2018
    Posts: 31
    Moving to Australia, surprising news

    Points to use: 4731
    switch moree 2474 RGO with Melbourne 2476 - 1500 points
    healthcare - 1000
    basic school system - 1000
    Tycoon Capitalism and Business Schools - 250
    4731 - 3750 = 981
    +1.5% Lit 938 points
    981 - 938 = 43 left over
    King of Men
    Posted: Saturday, June 23, 2018 8:46:24 AM
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    Ynglings buy, from 4731 score:

    Factory: 1000
    RGO swap: 1500
    Historical party TBA: 1000
    Tech school: 250
    Literacy: 981


    Read my blog.
    Norway Rome The Khanate Scotland Scotinavia Christendie the Serene Republic has always been at war with the Bretons False Empire Caliphate Persians Russians English Hungarians Oceanians Saracen Jackal! Death, death, death to the Frogs barbarians infidels necromancers vodka-drinking hegemonists Sassenach nomad menace Yellow Menace heathen Great Old One!
    Ranger9000
    Posted: Saturday, June 23, 2018 8:52:47 AM
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    Joined: 4/11/2013
    Posts: 326
    Rharia Customizations

    4731
    -1000 For Machine Parts Factory

    -1000 for Trinket Healthcare

    -1500 for Basic School System

    -250 for Military Industrial Complex

    = 981 for Literacy
    Mark0628
    Posted: Saturday, June 23, 2018 8:53:44 AM
     Lieutenant Colonel

    One Year Membership Medal

    Joined: 3/15/2012
    Posts: 550
    Empire of japan - 7176
    Machine parts factory in shizuoka - 6176
    Dutch Anarcho Liberal Party - 5176
    Business Schools & Tycoon Capitalism - 4926
    amari #1679 iron to shizuoka #1676 fish - rgo swap - 3426
    trinket healthcare - 2426
    basic school system - 926
    926 on literacy - 0
    James Craig
    Posted: Saturday, June 23, 2018 1:04:49 PM
     1st Lieutenant


    Joined: 2/1/2013
    Posts: 171
    Location: Scotland
    Elysium

    7386 points

    Trinket healthcare -1000=6386

    basic schools -1500=4886

    RGO swap Cajamarca (Sulphur) with Pernambuco (Wheat) -1500=3386

    Machine parts factory in Cundinamarca -1000=2386

    Tycoon capitalism tech school -250=2136

    I would also like to request that my stage 2 political parties which normally change out my starting parties in the 1870s be made available at game start instead of my starting parties. I am willing to pay both the cost of bringing in a fringe party and fixing my starting party for this. (1250 points) If this is not something I can do, then all remaining points go to literacy.

    0

    Vae Victis!
    LordSauronOfHertfordshire
    Posted: Sunday, June 24, 2018 6:26:02 AM
     Optio


    Joined: 5/22/2017
    Posts: 234
    Well this is probably too late but it's the only time I've had so here it is, hope it gets through in time:

    Leon: 4731 points

    -1000 Trinket Healthcare

    -1500 Basic Schools

    -250 Business Schools and Tycoon Capitalism

    -1500 RGO Swap Soria (481)(coal) with Salamanca (482)(iron)

    481 points for literacy

    Why conquer when diplomacy is just so much easier.
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