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Geofactor
Posted: Sunday, April 13, 2008 4:50:46 PM
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von_Bock wrote:
Lets not forget that many nations made the same mistake as Gamelin and even some German generals were in the mindset of WWI.

Originally the OKH planned to launch the Schlieffen plan once more which is what Gamelin was hoping for. Poland deployed its military to defend everything, and Russia too made the mistake of concentrating to large of a force at the forward position. Its human nature to attempt to apply existing concepts to what they think is modern, It was only a handfull of leaders who forsaw what the war would become.

if i may comment here.......poland was forbade to mobilize till 3 days before war by france and UK so as to not antagonize Germany!.....so in reality, no one knows how poland could have defended itself if its forces were really ready!....fact.....25% of german armor used in poland was destroyed by AT....fact......poland inflicted more casualties then the combined BEF and french forces in france!

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Posted: Sunday, April 13, 2008 5:23:59 PM
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Invasion:

On September 1st., 1939, 1.8 million German troops invaded Poland on three fronts; East Prussia in the north, Germany in the west and Slovakia in the south. They had 2600 tanks against the Polish 180, and over 2000 aircraft against the Polish 420. Their "Blitzkrieg" tactics, coupled with their bombing of defenceless towns and refugees, had never been seen before and, at first, caught the Poles off-guard. By September 14th. Warsaw was surrounded. At this stage the poles reacted, holding off the Germans at Kutno and regrouping behind the Wisla (Vistula) and Bzura rivers. Although Britain and France declared war on September 3rd. the Poles received no help - yet it had been agreed that the Poles should fight a defensive campaign for only 2 weeks during which time the Allies could get their forces together and attack from the west.

There are many "myths" that surround the September Campaign; the fictional Polish cavalry charges against German tanks (actually reported by the Italian press and used as propaganda by the Germans), the alleged destruction of the Polish Air Force on the ground, or claims that Polish armour failed to achieve any success against the invaders. In reality, and despite the fact that Poland was only just beginning to modernise her armed forces and had been forced (by Britain and France) to delay mobilisation (which they claimed might be interpreted as aggressive behaviour) so that, at the time of invasion, only about one-third of her total potential manpower was mobilised, Polish forces ensured that the September campaign was no "walk-over". The Wehrmacht had so under-rated Polish anti-tank capabilities (the Polish-designed anti-tank gun was one of the best in the world at that time) that they had gone into action with white "balkankreuz", or crosses, prominently displayed in eight locations; these crosses made excellent aiming points for Polish gun-sights and forced the Germans to radically rethink their national insignia, initially overpainting them in yellow and then, for their later campaigns, adopting the modified "balkankreuz" similar to that used by the Luftwaffe. The recently-designed 7TP "czolg lekki", or light tank, the first in the world to be designed with a diesel engine, proved to be superior to German tanks of the same class (the PzKpfw I and II) inflicting serious damage to the German forces, limited only by the fact that they were not used in concentrated groups. They were absorbed by the Germans into their own Panzer divisions at the end of the campaign.

On September 17th. Soviet forces invaded from the east. Warsaw surrendered 2 weeks later, the garrison on the Hel peninsula surrendered on October 2nd., and the Polesie Defence group, after fighting on two fronts against both German and Soviet forces, surrendered on October 5th. The Poles had held on for twice as long as had been expected and had done more damage to the Germans than the combined British and French forces were to do in 1940. The Germans lost 50,000 men, 697 planes and 993 tanks and armoured cars.

Thousands of soldiers and civilians managed to escape to France and Britain whilst many more went "underground" . A government-in-exile was formed with Wladyslaw Raczkiewicz as President and General Wladyslaw Sikorski as Prime Minister.
The Fourth Partition:

Under the German-Soviet pact Poland was divided; the Soviets took, and absorbed into the Soviet Union, the eastern half (Byelorussia and the West Ukraine), the Germans incorporated Pomerania, Posnania and Silesia into the Reich whilst the rest was designated as the General-Gouvernement (a colony ruled from Krakow by Hitler's friend, Hans Frank).

In the Soviet zone 1.5 million Poles (including women and children) were transported to labour camps in Siberia and other areas. Many thousands of captured Polish officers were shot at several secret forest sites; the first to be discovered being Katyn, near Smolensk.

The Germans declared their intention of eliminating the Polish race (a task to be completed by 1975) alongside the Jews. This process of elimination, the "Holocaust", was carried out systematically. All members of the "intelligentsia" were hunted down in order to destroy Polish culture and leadership (many were originally exterminated at Oswiencim - better known by its German name, Auschwitz). Secret universities and schools, a "Cultural Underground", were formed (the penalty for belonging to one was death). In the General-Gouvernement there were about 100,000 secondary school pupils and over 10,000 university students involved in secret education.

The Polish Jews were herded into Ghettos where they were slowly starved and cruelly offered hopes of survival but, in fact, ended up being shot or gassed. In the end they were transported, alongside non-Jewish Poles, Gypsies and Soviet POWs, to extermination camps such as Auschwitz and Treblinka; at Auschwitz over 4 million were exterminated. 2000 concentration camps were built in Poland, which became the major site of the extermination programme, since this was where most of the intended victims lived.

Many non-Jewish Poles were either transported to Germany and used as slave labour or simply executed. In the cities the Germans would round-up and kill indiscriminately as a punishment for any underground or anti-German or pro-Jewish activity. In the countryside they kept prominent citizens as hostages who would be executed if necessary. Sometimes they liquidated whole villages; at least 300 villages were destroyed. Hans Frank said, "If I wanted to put up a poster for every seven Poles shot, the forests of Poland would not suffice to produce the paper for such posters."

Despite such horror the Poles refused to give in or cooperate (there were no Polish collaborators as in other occupied countries). The Polish Underground or AK (Armia Krajowa or Home Army) was the largest in Europe with 400,000 men. The Jewish resistance movement was set up separately because of the problem of being imprisoned within the ghettos. Both these organisations caused great damage to the Nazi military machine. Many non-Jewish Poles saved the lives of thousands of Jews despite the fact that the penalty, if caught, was death (in fact, Poland was the only occupied nation where aiding Jews was punishable by death).
Fighting on all Fronts:

The Polish Army, Navy and Air Force reorganised abroad and continued to fight the Germans. In fact they have the distinction of being the only nation to fight on every front in the War. In 1940 they fought in France, in the Norwegian campaign they earned a reputation for bravery at Narvik, and in Africa the Carpathian Brigade fought at Tobruk.

Polish Squadrons played an important role in the Battle of Britain, accounting for 12% of all German aircraft destroyed at the cost of 33 lives. By the end of the war they had flown a total of 86,527 sorties, lost 1669 men and shot down 500 German planes and 190 V1 rockets.

The Polish Navy, which had escaped intact, consisted of 60 vessels, including 2 cruisers, 9 destroyers and 5 submarines ( one of which was the famous "Orzel"Wink which were involved in 665 actions at sea. The first German ship sunk in the war was sunk by Polish ships. The Navy also took part in the D-Day landings.

When the Soviet Union was attacked by Germany, in June 1941, Polish POWs were released from prison camps and set up an army headed by General Anders. Many civilians were taken under the protection of this army which was allowed to make its way to Persia (modern-day Iran) and then on to Egypt. This army, the Polish Second Corps, fought with distinction in Italy, their most notable victory being that at Monte Cassino, in May 1944, and which opened up the road to Rome for the Allies as a whole. One of the "heroes" of the Polish Second Corps was Wojtek, a brown bear adopted in Iran as their mascot; at Monte Cassino Wojtek actually helped in the fighting by carrying ammunition for the guns. He died, famous and well-loved, in Edinburgh Zoo in 1964, aged 22.

All the Polish forces took part in the Allied invasion of Europe and liberation of France, playing a particularly crucial role in the significant Battle of the Falaise Gap. The Polish Parachute Brigade took part in the disastrous Battle of Arnhem in Holland. In 1945, the Poles captured the German port of Wilhelmshaven.

In 1943 a division of Polish soldiers was formed in Russia under Soviet control and fought on the Eastern Front. They fought loyally alongside the Soviet troops, despite the suffering they had experienced in Soviet hands, and they distinguished themselves in breaking through the last German lines of defence, the "Pomeranian Rampart", in the fighting in Saxony and in the capture of Berlin.

The "Home Army", under the command of General Stefan Roweki (code-named "Grot"Wink, and after his capture in 1943 (he was later murdered), by General Tadeusz Komorowski (code-named "Bor"Wink, fought a very varied war; at times in open combat in brigade or division strength, at times involved in sabotage, often acting as execution squads eliminating German officials, and often fighting a psychological campaign against German military and civilians. It was a costly war since the Germans always took reprisals.

The Intelligence Service of the Home Army captured and sent parts of the V1 to London for examination, providing information on German military movements (giving advanced warning of the German plan to invade Russia), and gave the RAF full information about Peenemunde, where the Germans were producing V2 rockets.
Betrayal:

The crime of Katyn was discovered in 1943 and created a rift in Polish-Soviet relations. From now on the Home Army was attacked by Soviet propaganda as collaborating with the Germans and being called on to rise against the Germans once the Red Army reached the outskirts of Warsaw.

Secretly, at Teheran, the British and Americans agreed to letting the Russians profit from their invasion of Poland in 1939 and allowing them to keep the lands that had been absorbed. The "accidental" death of General Sikorski at this time helped keep protests at a minimum.

When the Russians crossed into Poland the Home Army cooperated in the fight against the Germans and contributed greatly to the victories at Lwow, Wilno and Lublin only to find themselves surrounded and disarmed by their "comrades-in-arms" and deported to labour camps in Siberia.

On August 1, 1944, with the Russian forces on the right bank of the Vistula, the Home Army rose in Warsaw; the Warsaw Rising. Heroic street-fighting involving the whole population, using the sewers as lines of communication and escape, under heavy bombardment, lasted for 63 days. The city was completely destroyed. Not only did the Russians cease to advance but they also refused to allow Allied planes to land on Russian airfields after dropping supplies. After surrendering many civilians and soldiers were executed or sent to concentration camps to be exterminated and Warsaw was razed to the ground.

The defeat in Warsaw destroyed the political and military institutions of the Polish underground and left the way open for a Soviet take-over.

With the liberation of Lublin in July 1944 a Russian-sponsored Polish Committee for National Liberation (a Communist Government in all but name) had been set up and the British had put great pressure, mostly unsuccessful, on the Government-in-exile to accept this status quo. At Yalta, in February 1945, the Allies put Poland within the Russian zone of influence in a post-war Europe. To most Poles the meaning of these two events was perfectly clear; Poland had been betrayed. At one stage the Polish Army, still fighting in Italy and Germany, was prepared to withdraw from the front lines in protest; after all, they were supposed to be fighting for Polish liberation. It is a reflection on Polish honour that no such withdrawal took place since it could leave large gaps in the front lines and so was considered too dangerous for their Allied comrades-in-arms.

The war ended on May 8th, 1945.
The Cost:

The Poles are the people who really lost the war.

Over half a million fighting men and women, and 6 million civilians (or 22% of the total population) died. About 50% of these were Polish Christians and 50% were Polish Jews. Approximately 5,384,000, or 89.9% of Polish war losses (Jews and Gentiles) were the victims of prisons, death camps, raids, executions, annihilation of ghettos, epidemics, starvation, excessive work and ill treatment. So many Poles were sent to concentration camps that virtually every family had someone close to them who had been tortured or murdered there.

There were one million war orphans and over half a million invalids.

The country lost 38% of its national assets (Britain lost 0.8%, France lost 1.5%). Half the country was swallowed up by the Soviet Union including the two great cultural centres of Lwow and Wilno.

Many Poles could not return to the country for which they has fought because they belonged to the "wrong" political group or came from eastern Poland and had thus become Soviet citizens. Others were arrested, tortured and imprisoned by the Soviet authorities for belonging to the Home Army.

Although "victors" they were not allowed to partake in victory celebrations.

Through fighting "For Our Freedom and Yours" they had exchanged one master for another and were, for many years to come, treated as "the enemy" by the very Allies who had betrayed them at Teheran and Yalta.

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Posted: Sunday, April 13, 2008 5:42:09 PM
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http://www.acesofww2.com/poland/Poland.htm polish aces page....interesting http://judicial-inc.biz/Broomberg.htm another cool link

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Posted: Sunday, April 13, 2008 5:42:59 PM
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my grandfather was a Polish soldier who could not return home because of the Communism, and had to immigrate to Canada

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Posted: Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:09:33 PM
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Geofactor wrote:
fact.....25% of german armor used in poland was destroyed by AT.

Don't forget that most of the Panzers used in Poland was Pz I, Pz II and the Czechoslovakian Pz 35 and Pz 38. Pz I and II could be neutralized with antitank-rifles, or a lucky handgrenade.

"Hvor fattige var de ikke, disse fiskere som levde av havets nåde! De slet sig gjennom livet uten å se sig om til høire eller til venstre. Deres gleder var få, deres bekymringer mange. Men de hadde allikevel et gemyttlig smil til den fremmede, en munter vise og en lun historie. For sånn er de, disse Sørlandets barn."

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Anders is correct.

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Yeah, Anders is right.

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I would tend to agree with Anders.

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Posted: Sunday, April 13, 2008 8:17:21 PM
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Let's continue the polish part of our discussion here.;-)

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Posted: Sunday, April 13, 2008 11:23:45 PM
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IMO, polands most important contribution to the war was "cracking" the enigma device. They also held out longer than the french did, with less warning and preparation than the french had.

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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 12:09:40 AM
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Not contributing many angry young men to fly spitfires and Sherman tanks?

Well Geo, based on your comments here I will be upgrading the Polish military for the EIR mod, but continue to restrict alliance until the 27th of August as I have it now. I hope we can make Poland a tougher fight and not make the German situation not too difficult. Striking the right balance is the main thing. I think a tougher army but creating a situation where the Allies can not just stuff Lomza and Warsaw with troops and wait is the way to go.

I have known for a while that the Polish campaign was very distorted in the public mind, the supposed cavalry charges at tanks and this and that, but you have made a strong case here.

For a straighforward copy over zip version go here: Goerings Delay -- NZQS -- 1.3b.rar

The Mod can also be set up with the Jones Generic Mod Enabler and has worked fine in that mode in my tests. This version has everything in it, 1.3beta, JSGME and the East is Red patch, and can be installed straight to your Armageddon 1.2 (ZBLV) folder without disrupting vanilla at all. It has the 1.3beta exe update and JGSME Mod system right in it. Just unzip to your main doomsday folder, copy the contents of the folder, then past into the main folder, then enable the mod using the JSGME system. Once you execute the JSGME it is pretty self-explanatory: EIR NZQS --ARMA 1.3beta complete 1.3b

Small patch from XTPS or NZQS 1.2 to NZQS 1.3b: Goering EIR -- Patch 1.3b

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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 12:52:45 AM
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According to my sources, the infamous cavalry charge against tanks actually took place, though in an isolated incident where a unit attempted to break out of an encirclement.

"Hvor fattige var de ikke, disse fiskere som levde av havets nåde! De slet sig gjennom livet uten å se sig om til høire eller til venstre. Deres gleder var få, deres bekymringer mange. Men de hadde allikevel et gemyttlig smil til den fremmede, en munter vise og en lun historie. For sånn er de, disse Sørlandets barn."

King of Men wrote:
Anders is correct.

Fivoin wrote:
Yeah, Anders is right.

baronbowden wrote:
I would tend to agree with Anders.

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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 12:53:54 AM
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Well precisely.

For a straighforward copy over zip version go here: Goerings Delay -- NZQS -- 1.3b.rar

The Mod can also be set up with the Jones Generic Mod Enabler and has worked fine in that mode in my tests. This version has everything in it, 1.3beta, JSGME and the East is Red patch, and can be installed straight to your Armageddon 1.2 (ZBLV) folder without disrupting vanilla at all. It has the 1.3beta exe update and JGSME Mod system right in it. Just unzip to your main doomsday folder, copy the contents of the folder, then past into the main folder, then enable the mod using the JSGME system. Once you execute the JSGME it is pretty self-explanatory: EIR NZQS --ARMA 1.3beta complete 1.3b

Small patch from XTPS or NZQS 1.2 to NZQS 1.3b: Goering EIR -- Patch 1.3b

It would be a dangerous folly for the British people to underrate the enduring position in world history which Mussolini will hold; or the amazing qualities of courage, comprehension, self-control and perseverance which he exemplifies.

Sir Winston -- 1937
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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:04:00 AM
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Anders wrote:
According to my sources, the infamous cavalry charge against tanks actually took place, though in an isolated incident where a unit attempted to break out of an encirclement.
My understanding was that the charge was made up by italian reporters who were not even present until after the battle.

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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:38:43 AM
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Well I read that Polish Cavalry did a lot of behind the lines harrassment, against supply lines and occassionaly came up against armoured resistance, but that was occassional and brief.

For a straighforward copy over zip version go here: Goerings Delay -- NZQS -- 1.3b.rar

The Mod can also be set up with the Jones Generic Mod Enabler and has worked fine in that mode in my tests. This version has everything in it, 1.3beta, JSGME and the East is Red patch, and can be installed straight to your Armageddon 1.2 (ZBLV) folder without disrupting vanilla at all. It has the 1.3beta exe update and JGSME Mod system right in it. Just unzip to your main doomsday folder, copy the contents of the folder, then past into the main folder, then enable the mod using the JSGME system. Once you execute the JSGME it is pretty self-explanatory: EIR NZQS --ARMA 1.3beta complete 1.3b

Small patch from XTPS or NZQS 1.2 to NZQS 1.3b: Goering EIR -- Patch 1.3b

It would be a dangerous folly for the British people to underrate the enduring position in world history which Mussolini will hold; or the amazing qualities of courage, comprehension, self-control and perseverance which he exemplifies.

Sir Winston -- 1937
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Not as much "behind lines" as "encirceled", I think you'll find.

"Hvor fattige var de ikke, disse fiskere som levde av havets nåde! De slet sig gjennom livet uten å se sig om til høire eller til venstre. Deres gleder var få, deres bekymringer mange. Men de hadde allikevel et gemyttlig smil til den fremmede, en munter vise og en lun historie. For sånn er de, disse Sørlandets barn."

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Anders is correct.

Fivoin wrote:
Yeah, Anders is right.

baronbowden wrote:
I would tend to agree with Anders.

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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 4:16:53 PM
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Does anyone know of any good books on the Polish campaign?

For a straighforward copy over zip version go here: Goerings Delay -- NZQS -- 1.3b.rar

The Mod can also be set up with the Jones Generic Mod Enabler and has worked fine in that mode in my tests. This version has everything in it, 1.3beta, JSGME and the East is Red patch, and can be installed straight to your Armageddon 1.2 (ZBLV) folder without disrupting vanilla at all. It has the 1.3beta exe update and JGSME Mod system right in it. Just unzip to your main doomsday folder, copy the contents of the folder, then past into the main folder, then enable the mod using the JSGME system. Once you execute the JSGME it is pretty self-explanatory: EIR NZQS --ARMA 1.3beta complete 1.3b

Small patch from XTPS or NZQS 1.2 to NZQS 1.3b: Goering EIR -- Patch 1.3b

It would be a dangerous folly for the British people to underrate the enduring position in world history which Mussolini will hold; or the amazing qualities of courage, comprehension, self-control and perseverance which he exemplifies.

Sir Winston -- 1937
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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 4:33:52 PM
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cueball wrote:
Does anyone know of any good books on the Polish campaign?
No. But if you find one, let me know.

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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 7:38:54 PM
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cueball wrote:
Does anyone know of any good books on the Polish campaign?

No, but I know a song about it:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Blfvc33nxOM

"Hvor fattige var de ikke, disse fiskere som levde av havets nåde! De slet sig gjennom livet uten å se sig om til høire eller til venstre. Deres gleder var få, deres bekymringer mange. Men de hadde allikevel et gemyttlig smil til den fremmede, en munter vise og en lun historie. For sånn er de, disse Sørlandets barn."

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Anders is correct.

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Yeah, Anders is right.

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I would tend to agree with Anders.

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I have a WWII book, actually a set of two books, in which the first chapter is the invasion of poland. It's called simply "La segunda guerra mundial", the second world war, and it was written by raymond Cartier, french guy. It mantains a pretty much neutral point of view along the books. I'll try to tanslate as accurate as possible. It states:

[...] September the 1st, the mobilization has barely begun. The strategic disposition is absurd. Having wanted to cover the totallity of the national territory, the General Rydz-Smigly placed apong the borders seven agrupations called armies. He has placed important forces in the "Pasillo" trap (it means "el pasillo de danzig", the part the polish had and germany calimed was theirs)ordering them to conquer eastern Prusia, and even stronger forces, the armies Kutrzeba and Bortnowski, en the Posen exit (Poznan), offensive platform towards Berlin. The weasterns, calculating the population numbers, give Poland around 80 divisions: actually, it has onle 30, of which only 23 are constitued at he beginning of the hostilities. Its not for the insuficiency of their numbers or the wrong dispositions of their commandin officers, but for their entire estructure that the polish army is defeated before it has started fighting.
The weapons are totally from the WWI. The aviation is about 420 planes, which contains in a small number some relativly modern P-24 fighters. Besides an anacronic cavalry of 37 regiments, the armored army has around 100 old tanks. The artilery is entirely hipomovil (spelling? it means transported with horses). The transmition material is rudimentary. The D.C.A. (A.A.) material barely exists. They talk a lot about offensives, but the pappers for maneuvres are formalists and heavy. The men are overloaded. The combat traines and regimental traines are made of villager "carritos" (emm, can't find the word, it means shitty transportation at the least Tongue). Prácticly, is a no motors army. It's, as the polish say, a rustic army, flexible, adapted to the country, free of the problems of suplying, circulation and motor breaks, that carry with them the motorization of the transports and mecanization of combats...

Against it, Hitler's army.
It's like a new born. In 1939 (I believe this is a tipographic mistake, it must mean 1934 or so), and despiste some other secundary violations, military Germany is still living under the Versailles regime: 100.000 profesional soldiers distributed in 10 small divisions of infantry and cavalry, with prohibition of using armored units and aviation, heavy artillery and a Mayor Head Quarters. The restoring of military service and the constitucion of and army of 36 divisions weren't ordered until march 11 of 1935. The head of the army, von Fristch, believeing that number to be excesive and provocatory(buly?), declared that 24 was a good enough number to defend german borders. Hitler went far beyond.
The Reischswehr, during it's 15 years of existence had had nostalgia of tanks. [...] Refrained on the real, teh imaginative spirits studied the theory of that forbidden machine. The understood that it represented a military revolution that rought toghether both elements, speed and power, disociated for the positions war (WWI). Working on that born data, the german military thinking concibed a new war, lightened from the material fights, the long and bloody killings that, from 1914 to 1918, had dishonored the military art. Grouped in big units, acting at their maximum speed, with no need to wait for the paralitic hundredfeet (cienpies, a bug methaphore) of the infantry, the tanks penetrate, maneuvrre, surround, giving back to the war what it can have of swift, agil, improvised and smart.
Speaking of aviation, the german military thinking had studied the doctrine of the italian General Douhet, who proclaimed the absolute superiority ok strategic bombing, reducing war to terror bombings. Far from accepting it, it was biuld a cooperation aviation, which main principles were to join it to the revolution of the armored units, completing it. It was admited - the french still do - that tanks can only be used under the protection of the artillery, whose range limits their movements. The german military thinking renewed the problem replacing the artillery with the plain. The <<Stukas>> dive bombers, put their bombs with a presition far greater than an artilery cannon could. War, in those conditions, changed rithm and speed. To the armored cavalry joined the air artillery. Those innovations weren't easily admited by a group of generals whose miitary experience came from the static battlefields from the precedent conflict. The infantry, on their eyes, was still the main weapon, in whose benefit all the other are used, according to the formula that was common to all maneuvre armies of the time. The tank accompanied it, protected it with it's armor and, covered at the same time by the artillery, draged it forward. That it could be reduced to the mere task of gathering prisoners, was a boldness of thinking that brought big shocks in the german military. Great military heads like Beck or Halder, were against it with all their strenghts for a lot of time.
The judge was Hitler. [...] When making the desicion between the clasic and modern armies, he took the choise for the modern one. The fast army that Guderian wanted to build answered to his impatience of a men obcesed by the few years he had to realize his work. With all his passion, he worked to impose it.
[...] When starting the polish campaign, the armored divisions are 6. The eldest 5 are numebered 1 to 5, and the newest number 10. The are made of a brigade of tanks, a brigade of transprorted fusiliers, a transmitions battallion, and observation squad and only one regiment of artilery of two groups of 105, with tractores of automoviles. Half the 288 tanks that make a division are Pz Kw 1, 6 tons with an light armor a two machineguns. The Pz Kw 2, with 9 tons, and with a cannon of 20, it's slightly better. But to find real power, it is precise to get to teh Pz Kw 3 and Pz Kw 4, of 15 and 20 tons, with calibers of 37 and 75 respectivly. But the numer of Pz Kw 4 per division is only of 24, and has been needed the will of Hitler to make that hapen because of military heads that saw it too heavy. Such are the famous Panzerdivisionen which would revolution the art of war, letting Hitler dominate Europe. Later, 4 light divisions, nuumbered 6 to 9, will get to be armored divisions, with the adding of cheq(spelling?) material, but instead of a brigade, they won't have more than a tank regiment, of three batallions. Retrospectivly, it shocks to now the weakness of that battle corps, specially when compared to the modern tanks that appeared at the time. The impression caused by the Panzerdivisions, the succes they had, have lead to overestimate their strenght fantastickly, and 1/4 century later, some have not lost that impression. Much more than the weight and the number of tanks, the revolution of the armored corps was in their new doctrine of use and the boldines with which it was applied in the battle fields. WWII started with the victory of intelligence.
Comparativly, the Luftwaffe was stronger than the armored army. Since 1934, it has got over its childish sickness, takeing it's yearly production from 600 to 6000, placing some models than, until the USA industrial power is established, will rule the sky: Fighter Me-109, destroyer Me-110, dive bomber Ju-87 and horizontal bombers Ju-88, He-111 and Do-17 At the beginning of hostilities, it has 771 fighters, 408 destroyers, 336 stukas and 1180 bombers: a total of 2695 air planes, which forme an Air Force with no comparison in the world for some long years.
Leaving armored corps and aviation, the army had been rebuilt traditionally. A weak motorization: only 4 motorized infantry divisions cooperating with the panzers. The rest consists in 36 active divisions, 37 in reserve, 3 mountain divisions, and 14 Ersatz divisions. The material has ups and downs: the modern shells of 105 and 150 rule over the the 75, 105 and 155 frenchs, but many bateries are still armed with the old 77 of William II.

Well... it took my some time to write this hehe, hope you liked it Smile.

Reference: "La Segunda Guerra Mundial" (translated to spanish from the original version), Raymond Cartier, Larousse, Paris-Match. December, 1966.
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