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cueball
Posted: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:25:16 PM
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Cause I have things to do.

For a straighforward copy over zip version go here: Goerings Delay -- NZQS -- 1.3b.rar

The Mod can also be set up with the Jones Generic Mod Enabler and has worked fine in that mode in my tests. This version has everything in it, 1.3beta, JSGME and the East is Red patch, and can be installed straight to your Armageddon 1.2 (ZBLV) folder without disrupting vanilla at all. It has the 1.3beta exe update and JGSME Mod system right in it. Just unzip to your main doomsday folder, copy the contents of the folder, then past into the main folder, then enable the mod using the JSGME system. Once you execute the JSGME it is pretty self-explanatory: EIR NZQS --ARMA 1.3beta complete 1.3b

Small patch from XTPS or NZQS 1.2 to NZQS 1.3b: Goering EIR -- Patch 1.3b

It would be a dangerous folly for the British people to underrate the enduring position in world history which Mussolini will hold; or the amazing qualities of courage, comprehension, self-control and perseverance which he exemplifies.

Sir Winston -- 1937
SilverBolt
Posted: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:56:18 PM
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Ed..come game is up.
hiensen
Posted: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:57:35 PM
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Yeh ready to start here.
Edzako
Posted: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:05:33 PM
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I must admit I am disappointed with yesterdays session, I can agree that we all do everything possible to win this game, but when you already having advantage over your enemies is that so unreasonable not to use gamey exploits. I do think that leaving 1 province barrier in Persia is just exploit of game engine , since such things wouldn't be possible in real life, this game isn't perfect and we all must show little respect to other players not looking only to rules, after all Brits could have raided Italy easily in 1939 when certain players whined about game balance, but they did not , due to certain player screwing up.

Also releasing various Asian republics thus destroying all chances for soviet player to recover is a little bit unsporting, after all knowing Cue he will not quit, but he will wait how long, 2 years, with seriously weakened SU. I will continue to play this game if majority votes so, but I felt that certain players acted low.

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hiensen
Posted: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:57:40 PM
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Edzako wrote:
I do think that leaving 1 province barrier in Persia is just exploit of game engine , since such things wouldn't be possible in real life, this game isn't perfect and we all must show little respect to other players not looking only to rules, after all Brits could have raided Italy easily in 1939 when certain players whined about game balance, but they did not , due to certain player screwing up.


First of all, you can say it's me no need to make vague accusations about ??? player.
I have to let you know that according to the EIR rules allies are not allowed to interfere in the east front.Letting one province buffer ensure that this rule won't be broken.So there's no point in complaining about it.

Edzako wrote:
after all Brits could have raided Italy easily in 1939 when certain players whined about game balance, but they did not , due to certain player screwing up.


No need to be kidding here, I can't imagine how you or any other player could have acted having in his side an autist Italian player that set his setup to AI very hard difficulty.His IC base was 79 till march 39, he had like 45 divisions total, half beaches empty, 2 divisions total in sicily, 1 division in sardinia and an "army" in north africa componed of 15 ish militias divisions.I have to say this is been to worst setup I have never seen.You could have anexed Italy with eyes closed yes, so what ? Game would have been over before winter 39.It was in the interest of everyone to boot greg from italy and edit italy out of axis, it was not about having mercy or not but acting for the sake of the game.And you noticed I played on in despite of this horror.

Edzako wrote:
Also releasing various Asian republics thus destroying all chances for soviet player to recover is a little bit unsporting, after all knowing Cue he will not quit, but he will wait how long, 2 years, with seriously weakened SU. I will continue to play this game if majority votes so, but I felt that certain players acted low.


I released Transural Republic so what ? The soviet army is now 4 divisions.With or without Sverldorsk it don't have the manpower and too high numbers to catch for recovering.So there's no need to whine here about it, it's meaningless considering the current situation.

Oh and as we got here, I want to mention a certain lack of sportmanship when General Sherman subbed Mighty Japan for 30 mins 1 hour.We told you not hit him too hard because he was subbing a Japan in middle of war. What happened is that you just completly owned him and too happy to sink Mighty ships you didn't retreated to give the aussie coon one chance to fight on once he's back.
Not very fair, then japan anexed after 6 month of war, all allies against europe, no whine or complains, it's game. Let's go ahead.
Edzako
Posted: Friday, October 31, 2008 6:02:14 AM
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11.3 : SU may not give military access to the Allies for the purpose of defending the SU motherland.

Are you speaking about this rule ?

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cueball
Posted: Friday, October 31, 2008 6:52:24 AM
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That has definitely got to be changed that is all I can say.

That said, really the whole issue is that SU should not have gotten itself into this mess in the first place, and Hiensen was well within his rights to release Trans-Caucuses. Now. I would not have played as I did, thinking that the post was SU was going to be neutered like that, but Hiensen's decision to do that was well within the rules. I would have done something to save the army at least, but I was thinking that I would come out of the war with some sembelance of a country. But without that IC, and without the MP, I would say, though, that it pretty much makes the game a dead issue, because I just don't think Allies can recover.

There is more. I really was not aware of how strong the armour was going to be in this version of this mod, and that combined with the problem of landings really, really makes this seems not-possible. Had I known how monstorous the armour was going to be I would had more armour in my initial build, infantry was nearly useless until 1942/43. That plus some mistakes made recovery almost impossible.

Also the sudden decision of the Finns to declare war, something that ensured the destruction of another chunk of my army, which, if it could have survived to winter might have been tp'd out, and possibly given a small chance.

None of that detracts from Hiensen's play, which was certainly good.

All in all, I would say there is not even a glimmer of a hope. But the responsibity for this failure (both in the combat system and my play) really resides with me, and I don't think I can really stand by making Nostra and Edzako stand by my mistakes for more of this game. I was willing to play on, if I think there is any hope at all, but under these conditions there seems to be none whatsever. As far as I am concerned we should just call it a Axis victory and move on, since we have played two more sessions.


That said, I think its pretty clear that the rule 11.3 should be modified: SU may not give military access to the Allies for the purpose of defending the SU motherland, except when only one BP condition remains.


We abided by the rules, and Hiensen abided by the rules. I think the whole idea that the British army could not simply step across the border at that point was just silly. I don't see that there is much more that can be said about. The rule was wrong, imo.

For a straighforward copy over zip version go here: Goerings Delay -- NZQS -- 1.3b.rar

The Mod can also be set up with the Jones Generic Mod Enabler and has worked fine in that mode in my tests. This version has everything in it, 1.3beta, JSGME and the East is Red patch, and can be installed straight to your Armageddon 1.2 (ZBLV) folder without disrupting vanilla at all. It has the 1.3beta exe update and JGSME Mod system right in it. Just unzip to your main doomsday folder, copy the contents of the folder, then past into the main folder, then enable the mod using the JSGME system. Once you execute the JSGME it is pretty self-explanatory: EIR NZQS --ARMA 1.3beta complete 1.3b

Small patch from XTPS or NZQS 1.2 to NZQS 1.3b: Goering EIR -- Patch 1.3b

It would be a dangerous folly for the British people to underrate the enduring position in world history which Mussolini will hold; or the amazing qualities of courage, comprehension, self-control and perseverance which he exemplifies.

Sir Winston -- 1937
cueball
Posted: Friday, October 31, 2008 8:28:10 AM
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By the way. The new version is very fine I think, and does not have these problems.

Landings are not impossible (thought more difficult than vanilla) and tanks are not invinsible.

For a straighforward copy over zip version go here: Goerings Delay -- NZQS -- 1.3b.rar

The Mod can also be set up with the Jones Generic Mod Enabler and has worked fine in that mode in my tests. This version has everything in it, 1.3beta, JSGME and the East is Red patch, and can be installed straight to your Armageddon 1.2 (ZBLV) folder without disrupting vanilla at all. It has the 1.3beta exe update and JGSME Mod system right in it. Just unzip to your main doomsday folder, copy the contents of the folder, then past into the main folder, then enable the mod using the JSGME system. Once you execute the JSGME it is pretty self-explanatory: EIR NZQS --ARMA 1.3beta complete 1.3b

Small patch from XTPS or NZQS 1.2 to NZQS 1.3b: Goering EIR -- Patch 1.3b

It would be a dangerous folly for the British people to underrate the enduring position in world history which Mussolini will hold; or the amazing qualities of courage, comprehension, self-control and perseverance which he exemplifies.

Sir Winston -- 1937
Edzako
Posted: Friday, October 31, 2008 10:44:33 PM
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Good to hear, are we speaking about QPAR check sum ?

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cueball
Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2008 4:41:29 AM
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Yes. I was thinking of running with that for a while. At least until the present series of games are done. But it doesn't seem to have the major faults that BBLC had. There are a few things I think might need to be changed, but overall it seems to be fairly good. I am sure others will have ideas about improvements, which are always welcome.

For a straighforward copy over zip version go here: Goerings Delay -- NZQS -- 1.3b.rar

The Mod can also be set up with the Jones Generic Mod Enabler and has worked fine in that mode in my tests. This version has everything in it, 1.3beta, JSGME and the East is Red patch, and can be installed straight to your Armageddon 1.2 (ZBLV) folder without disrupting vanilla at all. It has the 1.3beta exe update and JGSME Mod system right in it. Just unzip to your main doomsday folder, copy the contents of the folder, then past into the main folder, then enable the mod using the JSGME system. Once you execute the JSGME it is pretty self-explanatory: EIR NZQS --ARMA 1.3beta complete 1.3b

Small patch from XTPS or NZQS 1.2 to NZQS 1.3b: Goering EIR -- Patch 1.3b

It would be a dangerous folly for the British people to underrate the enduring position in world history which Mussolini will hold; or the amazing qualities of courage, comprehension, self-control and perseverance which he exemplifies.

Sir Winston -- 1937
cueball
Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:52:00 AM
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Ok so are we starting again?

If we do Hiensen says he wants to end up as USA, and suggested Canada/USA, though I am fine with France/USA as long as the German player is good enough.

For a straighforward copy over zip version go here: Goerings Delay -- NZQS -- 1.3b.rar

The Mod can also be set up with the Jones Generic Mod Enabler and has worked fine in that mode in my tests. This version has everything in it, 1.3beta, JSGME and the East is Red patch, and can be installed straight to your Armageddon 1.2 (ZBLV) folder without disrupting vanilla at all. It has the 1.3beta exe update and JGSME Mod system right in it. Just unzip to your main doomsday folder, copy the contents of the folder, then past into the main folder, then enable the mod using the JSGME system. Once you execute the JSGME it is pretty self-explanatory: EIR NZQS --ARMA 1.3beta complete 1.3b

Small patch from XTPS or NZQS 1.2 to NZQS 1.3b: Goering EIR -- Patch 1.3b

It would be a dangerous folly for the British people to underrate the enduring position in world history which Mussolini will hold; or the amazing qualities of courage, comprehension, self-control and perseverance which he exemplifies.

Sir Winston -- 1937
cueball
Posted: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:16:20 PM
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I had the strat boards updated, in case anyone wants to use them.

Edzako is moderator for Axis forum, Banders (AKA MG) is moderator for Allies, and Silverbolt is moderator for Comintern board. Mighty G. should invite the Silver and Hiensen to Allied board, and Edzako sould invite me, and ISD.

Dunno what capacity Nostra is in this game yet....

For a straighforward copy over zip version go here: Goerings Delay -- NZQS -- 1.3b.rar

The Mod can also be set up with the Jones Generic Mod Enabler and has worked fine in that mode in my tests. This version has everything in it, 1.3beta, JSGME and the East is Red patch, and can be installed straight to your Armageddon 1.2 (ZBLV) folder without disrupting vanilla at all. It has the 1.3beta exe update and JGSME Mod system right in it. Just unzip to your main doomsday folder, copy the contents of the folder, then past into the main folder, then enable the mod using the JSGME system. Once you execute the JSGME it is pretty self-explanatory: EIR NZQS --ARMA 1.3beta complete 1.3b

Small patch from XTPS or NZQS 1.2 to NZQS 1.3b: Goering EIR -- Patch 1.3b

It would be a dangerous folly for the British people to underrate the enduring position in world history which Mussolini will hold; or the amazing qualities of courage, comprehension, self-control and perseverance which he exemplifies.

Sir Winston -- 1937
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